I had no idea who John or Marsha was or why they kept repeating it. I don' think I ever listened to comedy albums with the exception of Bob Newhart and Bill Cosby.
I don't like John & Marsha, but it was intended to be a parody of radio soap operas. Freberg is appropriate for Madmen because at the time the show is set, in the early 60s, he was a giant in the advertising field. He's considered one of the first to effectively use humor in ads.
Yes, he'd moved from being one of the most admired radio comedy writer/performers to being a very successful ad guy as well, doing similarly mildly (and sometimes not so mildly) satirical/absurdist things. He also sold a lot of records. THE STAN FREBERG SHOW was a summer replacement for THE JACK BENNY SHOW on CBS Radio in...'56, I think it was.
Yeah, I really didn't know where you were going with that question.
Elaborated series of sketchs, the J&M, that were picked up by others...I think I first encountered the trope on THE ELECTRIC COMPANY ca. '72, if not on some primetime comedy show beforehand.
THE ELECTRIC COMPANY, much like ZOOM some years before (and ZOOM is already gone again), has been revived in radically different form by PBS. Good question as to why the CTW, now Sesame Workshop, shut it down...perhaps the cast was too expensive (it didn't turn over nearly as quickly as SS's) and the spinoff/subsidiary toy potential was slight. I think TEC was gone even before the Speak and Spell was introduced.
Yup, though there were a few other decent series for children which were contemporaneous...ABC's MAKE A WISH, the syndicated BIG BLUE MARBLE, CBS's CHILDREN'S FILM FESTIVAL hosted by Kukla, Fran and Ollie...but those were all weekly. Weekdaily, CAPTAIN KANGAROO on CBS and the syndicated ROMPER ROOM were about the only sops to educational programming the commercial stations were making to very young children in the early '70s. MARSHALL EFRON'S PAINLESS SUNDAY SCHOOL was mildly amusing for even the young atheist I was. But I dug the short-form drama of RIPPLES and INSIDE OUT at least as much (PBS offers meant to spark classroom discussion).
In one episode of INSIDE OUT, one of the preteens blows off school and goes to see a showing of THE HOUSE THAT DRIPPED BLOOD, one of the badly-executed anthology films Amicus made from the Robert Bloch scripts they commissioned (among those, I like only TORTURE GARDEN, though on the Horror List, a number of folks like ASYLUM metter than I do or Bloch did).
What's the Worst Thing That Can Happen, Al Tucher, A TWIST OF NOIR
The Good Doctor, Adam Haslett, YOU ARE NOT A STRANGER HERE
Clouds in A Bunker, David Cranmer, PULP INK
Burning End, Ruth Rendell, THE BEST OF THE BEST SHORT STORIES 1986-1995
Something is Out There, Richard Bausch, MURDERLAND
Uncle, Daniel Woodrell, A HELL OF A WOMAN
Dark Adapted Eye, Katherine Tomlinson, SHOTGUN HONEY
Whiteout on Van Buren, Don Winslow, PHOENIX NOIR
An Invisble Minus Sign, Denise Mina, DEADLY HOUSEWIVES
Everything I Want, Megan Abbott, SPEED CHRONICLES
The Garage Sale of the Three Lindas, Marly Swick, THE SUMMER BEFORE THE SUMMER OF LOVE
Everybody Loves Somebody, Sandra Scoppettone, A HELL OF A WOMAN
Harpooned, Sandra Seamans, MYSTERICAL-E
Burn Patterns, Michael C. White MARKED MEN
World of Gas, Bonnie Jo Campbell AMERICAN SALVAGE
Snakes in the Briar Patch, Chad Eagleton, Cathode Angel
Sea of Grass, Jim Wilsky, ROSE AND THORN
The Pool, Keith Taylor from LIFE SENTENCES
Locked Out, Art Taylor, PLOTS WITH GUNS
Giving Blood, John Updike from THE MAPLES
Two and Half Miles, W.D. County, SPINETINGLER
ReBecca, Vicki Hendricks, FLORIDA GOTHIC STORIES
What is Your Emergency, Chris Rhatigan, GRIFT MAGAZINE
Here We Are in Paradise, Tony Earley
2. 984, 000 Pounds of Pressure, Anonymous Nine. Crime Factory: The First Shift
You Boys Be Good, Antonya Nelson
A Blunderbuss for a Broken Heart, Chris LeTray Pulp Modern 2
Spending Light, John Stickney, NEEDLE, Issue 2
365- February
A New Life, Kyle Minor, DISCOUNT NOIR
A Composer and His Parakeets, Ha Jin GOOD FALL
Where Are You Going, Where Have You Been, Joyce Carol Oates
Girls in Their Summer Dresses, Irwin Shaw
The Last Spin, Evan Hunter
The Birthday Party, Graham Greene
Blue, Rachel Seiffert, FIELD STUDY
Tonto Woman, Elmore Leonard, THE COMPLETE WESTERN STORIES
Only Good Ones, Elmore Leonard, THE COMPLETE WESTERN STORIES OF ELMORE LEONARD
Super Trooper, Nigel Bird, OFF THE RECORD
The Incident at Owls' Creek Bridge, Ambrose Bierce
Food Man, Lisa Tuttle, BEST OF CRANK
The Babysitter's Code, Laura Lippman, PLOTS WITH GUNS
Graveyard Shift, James Reasoner, Hard-Boiled
Portrait of An American Family, Benoit Lelievre, SHOTGUN HONEY
Thanks for the Ride, Alice Munro, Dance of the Happy Shades
A MAtter of Principal, Max Allan Collins, FAVORITE KILLS
Cold Snap, Thom Jones COLD SNAP
Piano Man, Bill Crider, ON DANGEROUS GROUND
The Ladder, Adrian McKinty, CRIME FACTORY: FIRST SHIFT
THe Confessor, Lonni Lees, SHOTGUN HONEY
Plaything, Daniel Hatadi, DEADLY TREATS
Going to Shrewsbury, Sarah Orne Jewett, THE COUNTRY OF THE POINTED FIRS
Sunlight Nocturne, Bill Cameron, DEADLY TREATS
Escapes, Joy Williams, ESCAPES
Ugly Pictures, Terrie Moran, THE AWARENESS
Just Another Saturday Night, William Link, EQMM
Pride, P.J. Parrish, DETROIT NOIR
Bonus, Jim Ray Daniels, DETROIT TALES
Casanova Succumbs to Two-Ton Tina, Rob Kitchin, A TWIST OF NOIR
The Lost Child, Jean Thompson WHO DO YOU LOVE
365-March
365 March
Unfortunate Misfortunes of a Man Named Lud, John Weagly, FIRES ON THE PLAIN
Lamb to the Slaughter, Roal Dahl
The Navy Man, Kyle Minor, IN THE DEVIL'S TERRITORY
Cops and Robbers, Jean Stafford, MOTHERLOVE
Tort, Ken Bruen, EQMM
Melinda, Judy Doenges, O'HENRY AWARDS
Honeymoon, Arturo Vivante, SOLITUDE
Hard Rain, Katherine Tomlinson, NOHO NOIR
Bobby Conroy Comes Back from the Dead, Joe Hill, THE LIVING DEAD
Death is Daily, Craig Garret , FIRES ON THE PLAIN
Ice, Lily Tuck, 2011 O'Henry Collection
The Basher, Jason Starr, Wall Street Noir
Your Fate Hurtles Down at You, Jim Shepard, 2011 O'Henry Collection
The Neglected Garden, Kathe Koja, WEIRD STORIES
Windeye, Brian Evenson, 2011 O'HENRY COLLECTION
Triangulation, Anonymous-9, THE BIG CLICK
The Genius, Frank O'Connor
Why I Live at the PO, Eudora Welty
How to Talk To Your Mother, Lorrie Moore, SELF HELP
Jungle Bob, Ron Scheer, FIRES ON THE PLAIN
Last Song of Antietam, Patrick Lambe, ON DANGEROUS GROUND
On the Gull's Road, Willa Cather
Leaf in the Wind, Gene Wolfe, STORIES
Pack of Cards, Penelope Lively
Ember Days, Nick Ripatrazone, PLOTS WITH GUNS
The Chrysanthemums, John Steinbeck
Stay Awake, Dan Chaon, STAY AWAKE
Smantha's Diary, Diana Wynne Jones, STORIES
Unwell, Carolyn Parkhurst, STORIES, (Gaiman and Sarrantonio)
Naked Angel, Joe Lansdale, L.A. NOIRE
The Bees, Dan Chaon, STAY AWAKE
Blue Rose, Peter Straub
365 -April
Land of the Lost, Stewart O'Nan, STORIES Push Comes to Shove, B.V. Lawson, NEEDLE What He Was Like, William Maxwell, Running Hard, R. Thomas Brown, ALL DUE RESPECT Mr. & Mrs. Dove, Katherine Mansfield (online) The Beginning of Grief, Adam Haslett Family Ties, Craig McDonald, GRIFT Rosie's Chicken & Biscuits, Axel Howerton, FIRE ON THE PLAINS Not Quite Final, Richard Bausch, Who Has Seen the Wind, Carson McCullers, Confession, Stella Pope Duarte, PHOENIX NOIR Bonanza, Jo Ann Beard, THE BOYS OF MY YOUTH Flying Solo, Ed Gorman, DAMN NEAR DEAD 2 Triage, Alice Elliott Dark She Don't Eat No Meat, Kurt Gowran, NEEDLE No Rest for the Weary, Sandra Seamans, FOTP The Traveler, Wallace Stegner, THE COLLECTED STORIES Mortals, Tobias Wolff, THE NIGHT IN QUESTION Here Comes Santa Claus, Bill Pronzini Titanic Victim Speaks Through Waterbed, Robert Olen Butler, He Loved Her So Much, Sandra Scoppettone, LOVE KILLS How to Become a Writer, Lorrie Moore, SELF HELP I Danced with the Prettiest Girl, Dagoberto Gilb, Zolaria, Caitlin Horrocks, THIS IS NOT YOUR CITY The Squatter, Andy Henion, PLOTS WITH GUNS Romero's Shirt, Dagoberto Gilb, THE MAGIC OF BLOOD Pie Dance, Molly Giles, YOU'VE GOTTA READ THIS. Greatness Strikes Where it Pleases, Lars Gustaffson The Infamous Bengal Ming, Rajesh Parameswaran, A Hand on the Shoulder, Ian McEwan, THE NEW YORKER A Good Man is Hard to Find, Flannery O'Connor Hard Times, Ron Rash, BURNING BRIGHT Peconic Nightmares, R. Thomas Brown, BEAT TO A PULP The Best of Everything, Richard Yates
May, 365
Monsters of the Deep, Elissa Schappell, BLUEPRINTS FOR BUILDING A BETTER GIRL
Solitary Confinement, Sandra Seamans, COLD RIFTS
Lookout Mountain, John Floyd, MYSTERICAL-E
Doctor Jack-o'-lantern" Richard Yates, ELEVEN KINDS OF LONELINESS
Bulldozing the Baby, Jo Ann Beard, BOYS OF MY YOUTH
Ray's People Have Always Been Soldiers by Barry Basden
Symbols and Signs, Vladimir Nabokov, THE NEW YORKER 1948
Referential, Lorrie Moore, THE NEW YORKER
The Barber's Unhappiness, George Saunders, Pastornalia
A Commercial Proposition, Richard Wheeler
Thou Still Unravished Bride, Avram Davidson
Car Crash While Hitchhiking, Denis Johnson, JESUS' SON
Someone to Watch Over Me, Richard Bausch, THE COLLECTED STORIES OF
Undead, Beniot Lelievre, FLASH FICTION OFFENSIVE
A Freeway on Eartlh, Heath Lowrance, BURNING BRIDGES
Recitatif, Toni Morrison
We Dance, Jane Hammons, FICTIONAUT
Sadie, Jack and Fluffy Go on a Trip, Dennis James, MOBIUS
Health, Joy Williams, ESCAPES
No Place for You, My Love, Eudora Welty
The Sister's Tale, Castle Freeman, ROUND MOUNTAIN
Sitting on Top of the World, Bill Crider
Woman on the Dunes, Anais Nin
Stars of Motown Shining Bright, Julie Orringer, HOW TO BREATHE UNDERWATER
Words are Cheap, Ken Bruen, MURDALAND
Kiss Me Again, Stranger, Daphne Du Maurier
Molotov, Chris Le Tray, ALL DUE RESPECT
Looking for Romance at a Writer's Convention, Richard Wheeler
17 comments:
Don't watch Madmen, but I sure remember "John & Marsha" and many other great Freberg recordings.
Which thing didn't you get, Patti?
Never watched Madmen. So I'm lost here.
I've only watched a few episodes of Mad Men. It seems interesting but I'm not quite sure what all the hype is about.
I had no idea who John or Marsha was or why they kept repeating it. I don' think I ever listened to comedy albums with the exception of Bob Newhart and Bill Cosby.
Stan Freeberg was a genius.
I love his History of the United States Part I, probably my favorite comedy album of all time. In college I just about had it memorized.
Patti - no Shelly Berman?
For some reason the comics of that era escaped me. Berman I've heard of by this guy--not at all.
Patti - I have to admit, I'm not a Madmen watcher, but I like John and Marsha; I even remember the first time I heard it.
I don't like John & Marsha, but it was intended to be a parody of radio soap operas. Freberg is appropriate for Madmen because at the time the show is set, in the early 60s, he was a giant in the advertising field. He's considered one of the first to effectively use humor in ads.
Aha. The information grows. So he was in advertising not only a comedian.
Yes, he'd moved from being one of the most admired radio comedy writer/performers to being a very successful ad guy as well, doing similarly mildly (and sometimes not so mildly) satirical/absurdist things. He also sold a lot of records. THE STAN FREBERG SHOW was a summer replacement for THE JACK BENNY SHOW on CBS Radio in...'56, I think it was.
Yeah, I really didn't know where you were going with that question.
Elaborated series of sketchs, the J&M, that were picked up by others...I think I first encountered the trope on THE ELECTRIC COMPANY ca. '72, if not on some primetime comedy show beforehand.
I always wondered why they canceled THE ELECTRIC COMPANY.
I was a pre-schooler when this piece debuted I think.
THE ELECTRIC COMPANY, much like ZOOM some years before (and ZOOM is already gone again), has been revived in radically different form by PBS. Good question as to why the CTW, now Sesame Workshop, shut it down...perhaps the cast was too expensive (it didn't turn over nearly as quickly as SS's) and the spinoff/subsidiary toy potential was slight. I think TEC was gone even before the Speak and Spell was introduced.
My kids liked both around five or so. A dearth of quality shows for kids then. And even more so, movies.
Yup, though there were a few other decent series for children which were contemporaneous...ABC's MAKE A WISH, the syndicated BIG BLUE MARBLE, CBS's CHILDREN'S FILM FESTIVAL hosted by Kukla, Fran and Ollie...but those were all weekly. Weekdaily, CAPTAIN KANGAROO on CBS and the syndicated ROMPER ROOM were about the only sops to educational programming the commercial stations were making to very young children in the early '70s. MARSHALL EFRON'S PAINLESS SUNDAY SCHOOL was mildly amusing for even the young atheist I was. But I dug the short-form drama of RIPPLES and INSIDE OUT at least as much (PBS offers meant to spark classroom discussion).
In one episode of INSIDE OUT, one of the preteens blows off school and goes to see a showing of THE HOUSE THAT DRIPPED BLOOD, one of the badly-executed anthology films Amicus made from the Robert Bloch scripts they commissioned (among those, I like only TORTURE GARDEN, though on the Horror List, a number of folks like ASYLUM metter than I do or Bloch did).
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