There are not that many great female villains on TV. I think of Mags Bennett on JUSTIFIED, but the great Margo Martindale doesn't do much wrong. What other women were memorable?
Mags was a wonderful character because she was not just evil (although she was, of course). I suppose there will be votes for Joan Collins on DYNASTY but I never watched that nighttime soap. I always got the impression that she was a pretty cartoonish character.
I immediately thought of Alexis Carrington. Not exactly evil but a character you loved to hate. Jeff beat me to her, of course. Betty White as Sue Ann Nivens fits the same category, but she's hardly evil.
If we're talking evil I can only think of two.
Olivia D'Abo as Nicole Wallace, the seductively sociopathic nemesis of Goren on Law & Order: Criminal Intent
Livia from I, Claudius -- going back to the late 70s for that one. Siân Phillips was a powerhouse of manipulative evil in that role.
Has anyone else noted the trend towards female master criminals on TV this season? Moriarty was turned into a woman on ELEMENTARY and on THE MENTALIST just three nights ago there was a woman drug lord who controlled Corpus Christi. I'm thinking KILLER WOMEN, the new show about a female Texas Ranger, may have its share of women as villains during its run as well.
Livia Soprano is the best example I can think of. Everyone else pales in comparison because her venom is directed against her own son. Oh, what about that woman on Luther. Can't think of her name but she is delicious.
I think the dearth of female villains can largely be attributed to sloth. It's so much easier to write female victims and get the cheap reaction. A character like Mags Bennett takes real work.
My choice would be Jane Alexander in the 1986 miniseries BLOOD AND ORCHIDS. I remember one reviewer saying, "Would-be villainesses of daytime TV should watch Ms. Alexander to see how it's done."
The series is based on the historical case of Thalia Massie, which was a major event in the history of Hawaii. Jane Alexander plays the Thalia Massie' character's evil mother.
She was (is) such a great actress. So graceful in any part. I don't think I ever saw this one but I remember her in many other roles, always with distinction.
Glenn Close as Patty Hewes on DAMAGES. Such a fantastic show, especially season one. I understand why so many big names are willing to play small roles in it.
Patricia Abbott is the author of more than 125 stories that have appeared online, in print journals and in various anthologies. She is the author of two print novels CONCRETE ANGEL (2015) and SHOT IN DETROIT (2016)(Polis Books). CONCRETE ANGEL was nominated for an Anthony and Macavity Award in 2016. SHOT IN DETROIT was nominated for an Edgar Award and an Anthony Award in 2017. A collection of her stories I BRING SORROW AND OTHER STORIES OF TRANSGRESSION will appear in 2018.
She also authored two ebooks, MONKEY JUSTICE and HOME INVASION and co-edited DISCOUNT NOIR. She won a Derringer award for her story "My Hero." She lives outside Detroit.
Patricia (Patti) Abbott
SHOT IN DETROIT
Edgar Nominee 2017, Anthony nominee 2017
CONCRETE ANGEL
Polis Books, 2015-nominated for the Anthony and Macavity Awards
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Mags was a wonderful character because she was not just evil (although she was, of course). I suppose there will be votes for Joan Collins on DYNASTY but I never watched that nighttime soap. I always got the impression that she was a pretty cartoonish character.
Jeff M.
I think of Livia Soprano, in The Sopranos, played by Nancy Marchand, as really evil. And a great role.
I immediately thought of Alexis Carrington. Not exactly evil but a character you loved to hate. Jeff beat me to her, of course. Betty White as Sue Ann Nivens fits the same category, but she's hardly evil.
If we're talking evil I can only think of two.
Olivia D'Abo as Nicole Wallace, the seductively sociopathic nemesis of Goren on Law & Order: Criminal Intent
Livia from I, Claudius -- going back to the late 70s for that one. Siân Phillips was a powerhouse of manipulative evil in that role.
Has anyone else noted the trend towards female master criminals on TV this season? Moriarty was turned into a woman on ELEMENTARY and on THE MENTALIST just three nights ago there was a woman drug lord who controlled Corpus Christi. I'm thinking KILLER WOMEN, the new show about a female Texas Ranger, may have its share of women as villains during its run as well.
Of course my Livia Soprano comment disappeared. I don't know WTF is wrong with Blogger other than that they seem to hate me.
I'm glad John mentioned the 'other' Livia because I thought of her afterwards as well.
Jeff M.
Livia Soprano is the best example I can think of. Everyone else pales in comparison because her venom is directed against her own son. Oh, what about that woman on Luther. Can't think of her name but she is delicious.
Baba Wawa.
Off to check out that story, Patti! :-)
Patti,
Wasn't the woman on Luther named Alice?
I think the dearth of female villains can largely be attributed to sloth. It's so much easier to write female victims and get the cheap reaction. A character like Mags Bennett takes real work.
Love Alice (Ruth Wilson) on LUTHER! She is certainly loyal to Luther.
Jeff M.
I've been waiting for this discussion!
My choice would be Jane Alexander in the 1986 miniseries BLOOD AND ORCHIDS. I remember one reviewer saying, "Would-be villainesses of daytime TV should watch Ms. Alexander to see how it's done."
The series is based on the historical case of Thalia Massie, which was a major event in the history of Hawaii. Jane Alexander plays the Thalia Massie' character's evil mother.
She was (is) such a great actress. So graceful in any part. I don't think I ever saw this one but I remember her in many other roles, always with distinction.
Glenn Close as Patty Hewes on DAMAGES. Such a fantastic show, especially season one. I understand why so many big names are willing to play small roles in it.
I only saw the first two seasons of DAMAGES. She was terrific. Need to revisit. Did they take it off the network?
I loved your story, Patti. Totally surprised by the ending. I haven't been much of a short story reader, guess I have to expand my horizons.
Thanks so much. So kind of you to read it and write to me!
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