tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33110302.post7256153077238326647..comments2024-03-28T08:51:47.164-04:00Comments on Patricia Abbott (pattinase): Serial Killerspattinase (abbott)http://www.blogger.com/profile/02916037185235335846noreply@blogger.comBlogger38125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33110302.post-55254668194452000442011-11-04T17:24:33.472-04:002011-11-04T17:24:33.472-04:00Not a fan of serial killer stories but I do like D...Not a fan of serial killer stories but I do like <i>Dexter</i> for being a little different.<br /><br />Wow, cool to see Stephen Graham Jones mentioned up above here . . .Erik Donald Francehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02332500850365598564noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33110302.post-25035821258466390472011-11-04T13:38:38.210-04:002011-11-04T13:38:38.210-04:00Like Jeff,I don't care to read SK novels, but ...Like Jeff,I don't care to read SK novels, but Wife likes them a goodly bit. She reads John Connelly, Carol O'Connel, etc.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33110302.post-49531475046431036032011-11-04T09:39:28.751-04:002011-11-04T09:39:28.751-04:00Loved Epitafios and of course, WIRE IN THE BLOOD. ...Loved Epitafios and of course, WIRE IN THE BLOOD. ZODIAC was so good.pattinase (abbott)https://www.blogger.com/profile/02916037185235335846noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33110302.post-85262322948913299512011-11-04T09:14:43.382-04:002011-11-04T09:14:43.382-04:00I don't devour serial killer fictions but I do...I don't devour serial killer fictions but I do tend to read/watch the occasional unique take. Of late (and worth it)...<br /><br />-- Books<br /><br />American Psycho (1991) by Bret Easton Ellis<br /><br />- Very Bad Deaths (2004) by Spider Robinson<br /><br />- John Wayne Cleaver Series<br />I Am Not A Serial Killer (2009) by Dan Wells<br />Mr. Monster (2010) by Dan Wells<br />I Don't Want to Kill You (2011) by Dan Wells<br /><br />-- Movies<br /><br />Deep Red (75 Argento ITA) <br />I Saw The Devil (10 Kim KOR)<br />Zodiac (07 Fincher USA) <br /><br />-- Television<br /><br />Epitafios (2004) <br />Wire in the Blood (2002)Danhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10557932331658823137noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33110302.post-67854636057752000152011-11-04T07:14:26.965-04:002011-11-04T07:14:26.965-04:00Love KIND HEARTS.
Ripley was a good one. But he ki...Love KIND HEARTS.<br />Ripley was a good one. But he killed differently--because people got in his way. Not our of some need to kill.<br />My husband doesn't like Dexter much either. <br />I'll keep thinking, Deb.pattinase (abbott)https://www.blogger.com/profile/02916037185235335846noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33110302.post-90282242128277162192011-11-04T07:12:35.984-04:002011-11-04T07:12:35.984-04:00Patti--that's not it. The book I'm thinki...Patti--that's not it. The book I'm thinking of was more recent and was written by a woman. I definitely remember "Gentleman" being in the title and the author's afterword where she wrote about learning that her neighbor was a serial killer. I know it's going to drive me crazy until I remember the name of that book!Debnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33110302.post-60822850465964760552011-11-04T05:56:40.411-04:002011-11-04T05:56:40.411-04:00Tom Ripley remains my favorite, although the serie...Tom Ripley remains my favorite, although the series became weaker as Highsmith kept working him. The first was brilliant. I also liked reading Red Dragon so one more for HL. that’s about it, though ... my wife loves Dexter but we’re always at odds over TV. She claims if I like something, it means she’ll want to kill herself. I watched 3/4’s of one Dexter show and wanted to kill myself several times. I don’t get it (Dexter) at all ... and I’d definitely kill myself before reading about such a character.<br /><br />Go Bills! Go Lions!Charlieoperahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08876755029099726686noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33110302.post-11125969211746249662011-11-04T00:14:06.689-04:002011-11-04T00:14:06.689-04:00I agree with EYE OF THE BEHOLDER. You might also s...I agree with EYE OF THE BEHOLDER. You might also see a neat little movie called KIND HEARTS AND CORONETS.Cap'n Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11783977137812876489noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33110302.post-77764943301021448192011-11-03T22:29:42.142-04:002011-11-03T22:29:42.142-04:00And the worst, of course, is a serial killer who ...And the worst, of course, is a serial killer who targets kids.pattinase (abbott)https://www.blogger.com/profile/02916037185235335846noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33110302.post-35192941960178084172011-11-03T21:37:00.741-04:002011-11-03T21:37:00.741-04:00A Very Private Gentleman by Martin Booth?A Very Private Gentleman by Martin Booth?pattinase (abbott)https://www.blogger.com/profile/02916037185235335846noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33110302.post-30373264281064397972011-11-03T20:18:57.317-04:002011-11-03T20:18:57.317-04:00I've never been a big fan of the serial killer...I've never been a big fan of the serial killer genre; I like mysteries where the murderer has a plausible motivation, not just because he/she is a psycho. That being said, a few years ago I read an interesting novel that (as I recall) was written in the first person from a serial killer's p.o.v. (although none of the murders was gruesomely detailed). I've racked my brains and tried to remember the author or the title, but I can't. I know it had the word "Gentleman" in the title and I remember the author saying that she based the novel on her own experience of discovering that one of her neighbors was a serial killer. Perhaps someone will remember the book and share the title. I'm not saying you'll love the killer (you won't), but I did find the book interesting and not too gory.Debnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33110302.post-33818450162727257922011-11-03T19:32:05.760-04:002011-11-03T19:32:05.760-04:00A serial killer and a child in jeopardy are the tw...A serial killer and a child in jeopardy are the two plots that make me put a book back on the shelf. That's unless I've read the author and like the work. I can't count the number of times I was in our local independent mystery bookstore and commented out loud "Not another serial killer novel" and refused to give a new writer a chance.Kent Morganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09834261948994921554noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33110302.post-87769175680806457962011-11-03T19:02:25.175-04:002011-11-03T19:02:25.175-04:00And I think that's why they make good TV serie...And I think that's why they make good TV series too. Tension is not what I am looking for usually.pattinase (abbott)https://www.blogger.com/profile/02916037185235335846noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33110302.post-41472599520459073882011-11-03T18:17:02.888-04:002011-11-03T18:17:02.888-04:00Well, I've written a serial killer novel, but ...Well, I've written a serial killer novel, but I've no real interest in reading them and read very few (although I read a fair few where one of the characters has killed a number of people but not in a serial killer ritual, psychologically obsessive fashion - Dave Zeltserman's books come to mind). I was more interested in the notion of the perfect murder and a handbook for killing and getting away with. A serial killer story allowed me to explore that. In the first draft the killer never featured, just his handiwork and the handbook chapters, and his identity was never revealed and he wasn't caught or punished. What I discovered was publishers hate a completely open end with no resolution (which was the other thing I wanted to do - loads of murders are never solved - and nearly all my stories have ambiguous or open ends). There were a few compromises in the published version. Personally, I prefer the first version. SK novels largely work because the device is almost guaranteed to create a lot of tension and a page-turning effect.Rob Kitchinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05567424969308636082noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33110302.post-49344283426165203392011-11-03T16:31:38.244-04:002011-11-03T16:31:38.244-04:00No, there are not many books about serial killers ...No, there are not many books about serial killers I like either. <br /><br />A book which seems to be about a serial killer but is not, is Jane Casey´s The Burning. Because this plot is so in (apparently), it is labeled serial killer, but all the bloggers I know have made a point of telling their readers that it is not that kind of book.Dorte Hhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14535044092722418173noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33110302.post-8027281162686155812011-11-03T15:34:16.394-04:002011-11-03T15:34:16.394-04:00Real-life serial killers no, but fictional, yes, i...Real-life serial killers no, but fictional, yes, if it is also a good story. "American Psycho" by Bret Easton Ellis, and "Zombie" by Joyce Carol Oates are favorites. Have not read any recently, they have become too cliche. "The Devil's Rejects" by Rob Zombie was a movie that was pretty entertaining.Sean Patrick Reardonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14051252366031997054noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33110302.post-53798381438656947552011-11-03T14:55:22.599-04:002011-11-03T14:55:22.599-04:00Ordered Blackburn, which joins the roughly 500 boo...Ordered Blackburn, which joins the roughly 500 books I have on the TBR.pattinase (abbott)https://www.blogger.com/profile/02916037185235335846noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33110302.post-77899404076779359542011-11-03T14:37:14.631-04:002011-11-03T14:37:14.631-04:00I also liked the Cracker episode with Robert Carly...I also liked the Cracker episode with Robert Carlyle. <br /><br />The Eye of the Beholder is, I guess a serial killer novel but it's more of an exercise in style and mood -- great book though.<br /><br />As far as a plot device goes, a serial killer is a bit like Hal 9000. It's just this thing that kills other things, not that interesting. <br /><br />I did really like the serial killer episode of It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia and the old HG Wells/Jack the Ripper Movie TIME AFTER TIME.Dan_Lufthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05096055160420981482noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33110302.post-45602083397719613122011-11-03T13:47:45.886-04:002011-11-03T13:47:45.886-04:00The only two SK books I've read are THE STRANG...The only two SK books I've read are THE STRANGE CASE OF DR. JEKYLL AND MR. HYDE by RLS and THE SILENCE OF THE LAMBS including the movie. Two other SK films I've seen are PSYCHO and ZODIAC. I no longer watch SK films but I bent the rule for ZODIAC because of Jake Gyllenhaal and Mark Ruffalo.Prashant C. Trikannadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16079354501998741758noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33110302.post-89755441283709732212011-11-03T13:08:15.363-04:002011-11-03T13:08:15.363-04:00I gave up on serial killer stories a long time ago...I gave up on serial killer stories a long time ago, unless one appears as part of a series by an author I already read. (CITY OF LOST GIRLS by Declan Hughes comes to mind.)<br /><br />I think it's a cheat by the writer. He doesn't have to come up with any plausible motivations or consequences. All he has to worry about is indulging his talent for sadism or gruesomeness.<br /><br />Pass.Dana Kinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01350344882342624735noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33110302.post-74559100944139831102011-11-03T12:36:19.518-04:002011-11-03T12:36:19.518-04:00I've never heard of BLACKBURN by enjoy the Dex...I've never heard of BLACKBURN by enjoy the Dexter novels.<br /><br />The real life serial killers are so often schlubs. Little personality or intelligence. Unlike the cliched fictional killers with PhDs, extravagant methods of murder, love of opera, so on, so forth.<br /><br />Gibb's comment reminds me of Bernardo and Homolka.Gerard Saylorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00289822422163685990noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33110302.post-69440081207196900672011-11-03T12:19:23.255-04:002011-11-03T12:19:23.255-04:00Patti,
While I believe you are discussing fiction...Patti,<br /><br />While I believe you are discussing fictional serial killers here, I must say that I've always found true stories to be much more compelling - especially when the truth is much stranger than fiction.<br /><br />I've just published a book (Camouflaged Killer: The Shocking Double Life of Canadian Air Force Colonel Russell Williams, Berkley Books, October 2011) which is one such case.<br /><br />Colonel Williams commanded the country's largest and busiest air force base while simultaneously preying on local women. He quickly progressed from fetish break-ins/thefts to sexual assaults (where he tied up the women and took lurid photos of them), to full-fledged sexual homicides. And he managed to fly under everyone's radar, while personally piloting the prime minister, defense minister, chief of defense staff, and even the Queen of England!<br /><br />The story has other elements too - an attempt to frame his neighbor, a police officer who came close to interrupting one of his attacks but failed to intervene, great interrogation-room dramatics, and a community - and country - in shambles. You can't write 'em stranger than that!<br /><br />So I dare ya! Read my book, and tell me it's not something completely different. :)<br /><br />Perhaps serial killers will begin to intrigue you again!<br /><br />Cheers,<br /><br />David A. Gibb<br />www.camouflagedkiller.comDavid A. Gibbhttp://www.camouflagedkiller.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33110302.post-21936014358238582422011-11-03T11:54:08.491-04:002011-11-03T11:54:08.491-04:00EYE OF THE BEHOLDER isn't gruesome at all. It...EYE OF THE BEHOLDER isn't gruesome at all. It's sophisticated and sly.Georgehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04546161337366365635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33110302.post-29062834563396239702011-11-03T11:32:39.729-04:002011-11-03T11:32:39.729-04:00As I've written before: "Years before Dex...As I've written before: "Years before Dexter there was Blackburn, and everyone who has read or seen Dexter needs to check it out. Not only is Denton the better writer, but Blackburn is also the better character."<br /><br />Chad, the only other novel I would add to that small but great group is All the Beautiful Sinners by Stephen Graham Jones. <br /><br />I'm actually drawing a blank right now on another sympathetic SK (if I'm remembering right). I'll have to hit my shelves later and see if I can remember.Brian Lindenmuthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02519203797661128049noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33110302.post-75663614963188583022011-11-03T11:20:57.573-04:002011-11-03T11:20:57.573-04:00The first serial killer novel I can remember readi...The first serial killer novel I can remember reading is Lawrence Sanders' "The First Deadly Sin" back in the early 70s. It's still one of the best. Sanders went on to become something of a hack, but those early novels of his are quite good.MPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12515927050827397245noreply@blogger.com