tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33110302.post5270389638684058051..comments2024-03-28T08:51:47.164-04:00Comments on Patricia Abbott (pattinase): The Greatest TV Romance Ever?pattinase (abbott)http://www.blogger.com/profile/02916037185235335846noreply@blogger.comBlogger32125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33110302.post-21043459135588930522009-02-11T04:35:00.000-05:002009-02-11T04:35:00.000-05:00I was searching for a site that listed the best tv...I was searching for a site that listed the best tv romances of all time and came across this one. I was dismayed to see that my personal favorite did not warrant a mention as it must surely knock spots of some of the ones on this list.<BR/><BR/>Niles and Daphne (Frasier). Years of total obsession by Niles (oblivious by Daphne) then realisation (by both), acceptance and marriage.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33110302.post-44516752374872706442008-11-26T17:30:00.000-05:002008-11-26T17:30:00.000-05:00Love Sports Night. What a great ensemble. Okay, Ro...Love Sports Night. What a great ensemble. Okay, Roseanne and Dan was a great one. How could I forget them? He was the most gracious husband who ever lived.pattinase (abbott)https://www.blogger.com/profile/02916037185235335846noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33110302.post-65717937740402956692008-11-26T17:22:00.000-05:002008-11-26T17:22:00.000-05:00SPORTS NIGHT was good all right.For me it was Rose...SPORTS NIGHT was good all right.<BR/><BR/>For me it was Roseanne and Dan Connor on ROSEANNE. If you can seperate the Hollywood gossip from the show and just watch the show there's some of the best writing that's ever been on TV.<BR/><BR/>Or maybe I just feel that way because I've spent so much of my life in kitchens just like that with people just like that.John McFetridgehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09442198820998606682noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33110302.post-1597799106599737942008-11-26T13:19:00.000-05:002008-11-26T13:19:00.000-05:00I'll have to say I preferred SPORTS NIGHT. Sorkin ...I'll have to say I preferred SPORTS NIGHT. Sorkin knew television. With THE WEST WING, we got all the surface and spin of how politicians and their staffs wanted to see themselves and wanted to be seen. SPORTS NIGHT wasn't exactly full of searing indictment, but seemed to me to represent its subjects more accurately. SUNSET STRIP a little less so, but still more verisimilitude than TWW.Todd Masonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01815516018079824802noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33110302.post-77533719170279714472008-11-26T08:17:00.000-05:002008-11-26T08:17:00.000-05:00It was too bad that Sorkin's next show was given n...It was too bad that Sorkin's next show was given no time to gel. West Wing, although occasionally too self-righteous and didactic, was one of the few great dramas over the last twenty years. It was actually about something, about people who cared.pattinase (abbott)https://www.blogger.com/profile/02916037185235335846noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33110302.post-23033896124944033872008-11-26T06:15:00.000-05:002008-11-26T06:15:00.000-05:00I hate the assumption that men can't be close like...<B>I hate the assumption that men can't be close like women without being gay.</B><BR/><BR/>Sandra and I have been watching The West Wing for the past few weeks and were talking about this very same thing. I hate it too. One of the best relationships on the whole show is that of Bartlett and Leo. Best friends for 35 years, through thick and thin, and also affectionate (which isn't the same as sexual). It's a shame that the writers from season 5 on never really understood the dynamics of that relationship.<BR/><BR/>Also, I really hate the term bromance.<BR/><BR/>Really, if you think about it, The West Wing has it all.<BR/><BR/>Mature relationship - The Bartlet's <BR/><BR/>Will they won't they - CJ and Danny; Josh and Donna; Sam and Malory<BR/><BR/>Inter-office - Will and Kate<BR/><BR/>Flings only - Any one the Hoynes looked at and CJ to some extent <BR/><BR/>Post-divorce - Toby and Andrea<BR/><BR/>Big fan of The West Wing if you can't tell :)Brian Lindenmuthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02519203797661128049noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33110302.post-4821279338030633792008-11-26T02:58:00.000-05:002008-11-26T02:58:00.000-05:00I hate the assumption that men can't be close like...I hate the assumption that men can't be close like women without being gay.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33110302.post-63968447147677503372008-11-25T20:09:00.001-05:002008-11-25T20:09:00.001-05:00Both the movie and the TV series, Barbara.Both the movie and the TV series, Barbara.pattinase (abbott)https://www.blogger.com/profile/02916037185235335846noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33110302.post-78755012102527260952008-11-25T20:09:00.000-05:002008-11-25T20:09:00.000-05:00I think they circumnavigated that by having Pam go...I think they circumnavigated that by having Pam go to New York to study art. Her homecoming was bittersweet. The Office is actually full of romances now. Michael and Holly even worked. <BR/>West Wing is sorely missed.pattinase (abbott)https://www.blogger.com/profile/02916037185235335846noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33110302.post-10875942736075814612008-11-25T19:42:00.000-05:002008-11-25T19:42:00.000-05:00Love Pam and Jim, but I think the show lost some w...Love Pam and Jim, but I think the show lost some wonderful tension when they finally got together, one of the necessary evils of TV romance, I guess.<BR/><BR/>I loved the romances on the West Wing, because of how long they were drawn out before ever being realized, scratching the surface and retreating again (I'm thinking of both Josh and Donna, and CJ and Danny). Sigh.<BR/><BR/>- Jim<BR/><BR/><B>Are You a Honker? <A HREF="http://www.inkandbeans.com/2008/11/are-you-honker-die_25.html" REL="nofollow">Die</A>.</B>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33110302.post-28885389878468801062008-11-25T19:30:00.000-05:002008-11-25T19:30:00.000-05:00This is rather dated, but I always liked the buddi...This is rather dated, but I always liked the budding romance in the old TV series, The Ghost and Mrs. Muir.Barbara Martinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00610140328527165017noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33110302.post-17137369345804189252008-11-25T18:39:00.000-05:002008-11-25T18:39:00.000-05:00HA, Cameron. My mother asked me last week if I tho...HA, Cameron. My mother asked me last week if I thought they might be gay and not realize it.pattinase (abbott)https://www.blogger.com/profile/02916037185235335846noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33110302.post-17409734631991391302008-11-25T17:52:00.000-05:002008-11-25T17:52:00.000-05:00Oh, and how can I forget Turk and Carla on Scrubs?...Oh, and how can I forget Turk and Carla on Scrubs? They're another example that TV can do a healthy married couple.<BR/><BR/>And the greatest romance ever: Denny Crane and Alan Shore.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33110302.post-50793332353009187442008-11-25T17:50:00.000-05:002008-11-25T17:50:00.000-05:00The US Office is better than the original to me BE...The US Office is better than the original to me BECAUSE of Jim and Pam. I cheered when Jim popped into Pam's talk with the camera-man to ask her on a date and then that great over-joyed smile from Pam. <BR/><BR/>I watch The Office for the romance. Funny as the show is, Jim and Pam are the most real couple on TV. <BR/><BR/>I also really like Marshall and Lily on How I Met Your Mother. Its nice to see on TV a married couple where you don't constantly wonder why they stay together if they're so mean and stupid to each other. <BR/><BR/>Buffy and Angel, of course...<BR/><BR/>Veronica Mars and Logan Echolls.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33110302.post-38590142707397353502008-11-25T17:10:00.000-05:002008-11-25T17:10:00.000-05:00You are truly awesome.You are truly awesome.pattinase (abbott)https://www.blogger.com/profile/02916037185235335846noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33110302.post-832346334474108192008-11-25T16:40:00.000-05:002008-11-25T16:40:00.000-05:00Yes, in the first BOB NEWHART SHOW, he was doing t...Yes, in the first BOB NEWHART SHOW, he was doing telephone routines and MCing...some sketch comedy. I don't think he was required to sing or dance. Then there was THE ENTERTAINERS, where he was again a variety show host on a rotating basis...Carol Burnett as an eventual cohost...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33110302.post-17306156170419044872008-11-25T14:41:00.000-05:002008-11-25T14:41:00.000-05:00Travis-It sounds like such a cool book. And I know...Travis-It sounds like such a cool book. And I know it will have heart in it-that's your greatest gift.pattinase (abbott)https://www.blogger.com/profile/02916037185235335846noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33110302.post-9083936656721815362008-11-25T14:40:00.000-05:002008-11-25T14:40:00.000-05:00I read Generation Loss because of a review piece i...I read Generation Loss because of a review piece in the NYT. It mentioned Sara Gran and Hand and another writer as being horror writers. I decided I needed to try a horror novel and was surprised at how little horror there was. <BR/>I've heard of that BN show but never saw it. I guess he did standup on it? Can't imagine him as a song and dance man.pattinase (abbott)https://www.blogger.com/profile/02916037185235335846noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33110302.post-58341448093433307702008-11-25T14:34:00.000-05:002008-11-25T14:34:00.000-05:00I agree and that relationship is sort of what a mo...I agree and that relationship is sort of what a modeled the underlying romance in my novel Plundered Booty after.<BR/><BR/>Yeah I know, it seems a stretch to use the words plundeed booty and romance together but trust me it's in there hidden beneath the not so subtle humor. <BR/><BR/>Now I if can just get an agent to see all of that.Travis Erwinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09420879160702098979noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33110302.post-3350015681547044542008-11-25T14:30:00.000-05:002008-11-25T14:30:00.000-05:00The families in RELATIVITY, the series after MY SO...The families in RELATIVITY, the series after MY SO-CALLED LIFE and before ONCE AND AGAIN, and the romance between the twenty-somethings at the heart of it, should probably be mentioned here.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33110302.post-3442825810727525692008-11-25T14:29:00.000-05:002008-11-25T14:29:00.000-05:00And, of course, Hand isn't solely a horror writer....And, of course, Hand isn't solely a horror writer. (And, persnicking, the First BOB NEWHART SHOW was that 1960s variety show.)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33110302.post-2351449603180727292008-11-25T14:24:00.000-05:002008-11-25T14:24:00.000-05:00Patti, you definitely don't read enough good horro...Patti, you definitely don't read enough good horror, givent the stress you put on Koja as a Literary Horror writer. Almost everyone I read regularly is doing work that ambitious and humane...I leave the routine Kings and King knockoffs and worse to others.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33110302.post-37282492134455758052008-11-25T13:57:00.000-05:002008-11-25T13:57:00.000-05:00Yes, I finished it. She's one hell of a writer. I ...Yes, I finished it. She's one hell of a writer. I don't read much horror and I guess I was expecting something more horrific. But instead it was a great mediation on the artist as a loner, as an outsider. A complicate person who sees where obsession can lead. I tried to do this with my last WIP but obviously didn't bring it off.pattinase (abbott)https://www.blogger.com/profile/02916037185235335846noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33110302.post-56700643327944068902008-11-25T13:48:00.000-05:002008-11-25T13:48:00.000-05:00Hey! I see that you are reading Generation Loss. ...Hey! I see that you are reading Generation Loss. Fantastic.Brian Lindenmuthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02519203797661128049noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33110302.post-29168598377359783842008-11-25T12:57:00.000-05:002008-11-25T12:57:00.000-05:00Oh, I like the example of ENTOURAGE and is very ap...Oh, I like the example of ENTOURAGE and is very apt. Yes, the first BN show was lots better-I've been watching the second and it's just too tepid. ONCE AND AGAIN, you know how much I like that one. THIRTY SOMETHING didn't have the compelling romance. Actually Elliot and Nancy ended up being more interesting than Hope and Michael.pattinase (abbott)https://www.blogger.com/profile/02916037185235335846noreply@blogger.com