tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33110302.post3320803652651943865..comments2024-03-28T08:51:47.164-04:00Comments on Patricia Abbott (pattinase): THE FRUSTRATIONS OF SHOPPINGpattinase (abbott)http://www.blogger.com/profile/02916037185235335846noreply@blogger.comBlogger36125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33110302.post-91739541690241838782009-12-08T23:15:46.491-05:002009-12-08T23:15:46.491-05:00I'm sure I will cheerfully admit my ignorance....I'm sure I will cheerfully admit my ignorance...I can admit my ignornance of videogames, soap operas, and professional sports (not utter, but quite vast), to name some things that many folks are passionate about.<br /><br />wv: urliagstTodd Masonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01815516018079824802noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33110302.post-79324987717504157112009-12-08T19:19:56.491-05:002009-12-08T19:19:56.491-05:00Someday I am going to find a topic beyond your are...Someday I am going to find a topic beyond your area of knowledge. Maybe.pattinase (abbott)https://www.blogger.com/profile/02916037185235335846noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33110302.post-130904365583040572009-12-08T19:09:17.723-05:002009-12-08T19:09:17.723-05:00I've also co-run the bookstore, of sorts, at t...I've also co-run the bookstore, of sorts, at the Brookings Institution. That paid the least. Selling books on-site at the ASPRS paid better, if it was only a small part of the job at that professional organization.Todd Masonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01815516018079824802noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33110302.post-27749771798967908142009-12-08T19:06:30.093-05:002009-12-08T19:06:30.093-05:00Tower, too, squandered a lot of capital, literal a...Tower, too, squandered a lot of capital, literal and figurative, they could've hung onto, with particularly bad management, in their case, at the store level. But also chainwide. They conquered and the rot set in.<br /><br />FWIW, in the '80s and '90s I'd worked two Tower Records and a Tower Books in three states, a B&N college store, a Crown, and a Borders. Most of the time, it was the second job. Welcome to the Reagan/Bush/Clinton/Bush economy.Todd Masonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01815516018079824802noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33110302.post-87397477334998951252009-12-08T19:00:59.688-05:002009-12-08T19:00:59.688-05:00The ineptitude of management killed Crown much mor...The ineptitude of management killed Crown much more than the Killer Bs did...the Bs took their cue from Crown, after all, which was blamed before the Bs and Amazon for killing the indy bookstores, with the cheap bestsellers, etc.<br /><br />Papa Haft/Smurf was the business shark of the family, and Baby Haft/Smurf was given Crown to show he should be allowed to be heir apparent in more than just hairstyle (a la Oral and Richard Roberts). Then came the family rift you refer to. Baby Smurf couldn't hold it together.Todd Masonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01815516018079824802noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33110302.post-20958673020911330402009-12-08T13:54:15.676-05:002009-12-08T13:54:15.676-05:00It might be a good idea to remember that we, the b...It might be a good idea to remember that we, the buyers, are as responsible for this as anyone.I search of no tax, lower priced with cheap or free shipping, we went to the internet stores for music, books, etc. When internet sales started hurting the brick/mortar stores, we complained about the local guys prices and service and kept shopping the internet. I used to love going to a local Tower Records to see the CDs, listen to cuts, look in the Penguin catalog. It went down because people bought on the net instead. The big B's drove Crown Books out (that and the internal feud) but they can't do that to Amazon. We traded price and convenience (such as wish lists, holding things in a basket, easy searches) for the physical experience, now we complain.Richard Robinsonhttp://brokenbullhorn.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33110302.post-24407086281836439312009-12-07T21:38:18.054-05:002009-12-07T21:38:18.054-05:00Amazon has consistenly lost money till recently, b...Amazon has consistenly lost money till recently, buys in enoromous bulk compared even to the killer Bs, and pays rent only on their warehouses, as opposed to all that expensive retail space. They are, quite probably. pulling a Wal-Mart, in that if they do vanguish all their nationwide competition, they might well cease to discount (particularly as we move away from books on paper, and thus lose their advantages thus). And, of course, now Wal-Mart itself is slugging it out with them over bestsellers.Todd Masonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01815516018079824802noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33110302.post-41282583680472481762009-12-07T20:38:09.535-05:002009-12-07T20:38:09.535-05:00Kent-It's a real dilemma and not likely to res...Kent-It's a real dilemma and not likely to resolve itself anytime soon. How can Amazon do it?pattinase (abbott)https://www.blogger.com/profile/02916037185235335846noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33110302.post-21292343677590459692009-12-07T20:03:14.774-05:002009-12-07T20:03:14.774-05:00I haven't had any problems with amazon.com or ...I haven't had any problems with amazon.com or amazon.ca and am just ready to place another order with amazon.ca. I prefer to support my local independent mystery store for mystery books,<br />but since a change in ownership, they have cut back on the number of books they bring in. That has forced me to look elsewhere including McNally Robinson, Canada's top independent chain and Chapters-Indigo, which I dislike. But it's difficult to ignore the price differnces with amazon.ca. I checked out a book titled Cult Magazines yesterday at McNally - $39.95 plus tax. It's around $25 at amazon.ca with free shipping. I'm saving about @12 by buying Bill Crider's newest Dan Rhodes mystery about barbershoppers from amazon.ca. It's in stock there and at least three weeks delivery from the other stores and I want it as a Christmas gift for my brother-in-law who sings in a quartet. No wonder some store are in trouble.Kent Morganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09834261948994921554noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33110302.post-42915349540246489782009-12-07T17:49:22.719-05:002009-12-07T17:49:22.719-05:00RT-I basically share your view. I'd rather pay...RT-I basically share your view. I'd rather pay more and have the brick and mortar stores survive.pattinase (abbott)https://www.blogger.com/profile/02916037185235335846noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33110302.post-20333227612286996112009-12-07T16:38:32.680-05:002009-12-07T16:38:32.680-05:00I am now experiencing the first problem I've e...I am now experiencing the first problem I've ever had with Amazon: they promised me a delivery on Friday and here it is Monday and not delivered yet. I'm hoping it's not a trend.Laurie Powershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10429604692700662254noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33110302.post-44389962333114000332009-12-07T16:34:33.804-05:002009-12-07T16:34:33.804-05:00Patti, I confess to a love-hate relationship with ...Patti, I confess to a love-hate relationship with Amazon (and all shopping adventures). With particular focus on Amazon, I am ashamed to admit that I admire their incredible inventory, (generally lower) prices (although shipping prices are inflated), and fast service; on the other hand, I hate their domination of the market, which contributes to so many small bookstore failures. I confess that also dabbled in book selling through Amazon, which was a complete fiasco; as "honest" brokers between sellers (including me) and buyers, Amazon cares little about the seller, especially when it comes to unsubstantiated quality-of-service complaints from buyers; in other words, the customer is always right (even if the so-called customer is involved in fraudulent business practices like those perpetrated on small sellers by some large mail-order book vendors posing as independent consumer "customers"). I advise everyone to avoid becoming a seller through Amazon. The bottom line is this: I rather wish Amazon would go out of business, but I know that I am a lonely voice on that subject.R/Thttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07791522136032565027noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33110302.post-43899755015544420802009-12-07T14:44:42.017-05:002009-12-07T14:44:42.017-05:00Re: post office. I live on a street with three tow...Re: post office. I live on a street with three townhouses and nothing else. I almost always get notice of sales after they are over. EW, which arrived on Saturday in other places, comes anytime between Saturday and Wed. I have had to pay for a Netflix movie I never got. (Too easy to slip into someone's magazine. So I am not a great fan of the post office in Michigan.pattinase (abbott)https://www.blogger.com/profile/02916037185235335846noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33110302.post-6706743060536027652009-12-07T14:41:55.604-05:002009-12-07T14:41:55.604-05:00Richard-a very thorough disussion.
Steve-thanks f...Richard-a very thorough disussion. <br />Steve-thanks for the tip. I have one in mind right now.pattinase (abbott)https://www.blogger.com/profile/02916037185235335846noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33110302.post-5530319911967665592009-12-07T14:39:37.922-05:002009-12-07T14:39:37.922-05:00Well, let's see.
EXPERIENCE WITH AMAZON - I h...Well, let's see.<br /><br />EXPERIENCE WITH AMAZON - I have been using Amazon since the earliest days, when they only sold books. That was back when they sent a thermos cup to the good customers (I have quite a few of them). I had two independents and two chain stores but still found things on Amazon no one else had. In 20 years I've had just one books in poor condition, cheerfully replaced. As other resources dried up, I turned to them more often. I receive purchases from them quickly or at least within the promised time frame which is usually faster than the 2-3 weeks B&N says it will take to order the same book. Also, no sales tax is a big plus, since it's 10% here. Amazon shipping is almost always less, and often free.<br /><br />OTHER BOOKSTORES - There is a B&N nearby, and it's a very good place to shop for children's books, especially this time of year. Those are books I want to hold and thumb through before I buy, same with cook books, coffee table books (I buy very few, but sometimes they are gifts to others). The nearest Borders recently announced it is closing. I do like that I can pop in to B&N and pick up a calendar, birthday card, paperback etc. in one quick stop.<br /><br />ALSO USED - I also buy some books directly from the publisher, usually small press outfits like Small Beer, Night Shade, Red Deer, Subterranean, Planet and so on. <br /><br />THE POST OFFICE - I don't have any complaints. Packages come as expected, magazines, letters, bills, outgoing envelopes of whatever kind, it's all fine. There is a small annex nearby with short if any lines. My mail carrier and I are on a first name basis (same with the UPS driver on this route). If a package is too large for the box he put's it on the front porch, out of the weather. I take a half-dozen magazines and they arrive as expected, including the weekly issue of Time.Richard Robinsonhttp://brokenbullhorn.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33110302.post-42855694073788811182009-12-07T14:37:44.386-05:002009-12-07T14:37:44.386-05:00I use these folks
http://www.bookdepository.com/
...I use these folks<br /><br />http://www.bookdepository.com/<br /><br />for FREE SHIPPING and because they stock books I can't get here -- Al Guthrie, Ray Banks, Russel D McLean, and other folks over in the UK. Also started buying US and Canada authors there bc, hey, free shipping.Steve Weddlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03876211586767139613noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33110302.post-27803495888358610072009-12-07T12:44:05.705-05:002009-12-07T12:44:05.705-05:00I benefited from the misdelivery of a half-year...I benefited from the misdelivery of a half-year's worth of PLAYBOY, meant for another TMason in my apartment complex...I thought someone had bought me a gift and failed to let me know (and since PLAYBOY puts the address on the wrapper, rather than directly on the magazine, the address label tended to be discarded immediately).<br /><br />A package of EQMMs was presumably stolen by neighbors.Todd Masonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01815516018079824802noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33110302.post-66785586319754646952009-12-07T12:41:19.307-05:002009-12-07T12:41:19.307-05:00The Post Office is often to blame in these cases.....The Post Office is often to blame in these cases...mis-delivery, or issues destroyed by sorting equipment (I've rec'd more than a dozen scraps of magazines in bags begging pardon for the destruction in the mail stream over the last few decades). The only two packages aimed my way I know to have been lost in the mails were boxes of fantasy magazines, one from F&SF in 1978, one from book-dealer and smallpress publisher Chris Drumm ca. 1990.Todd Masonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01815516018079824802noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33110302.post-24767423811652974622009-12-07T12:35:31.011-05:002009-12-07T12:35:31.011-05:00And I hate it when a magazine sends you two old is...And I hate it when a magazine sends you two old issues to begin your subscription. And begins immmediately to encourage renewing. Or misses an issue. Very frustrating yet we subscribe to a dozen or more mags. Or refuses to offer the kind of deal you can find online.pattinase (abbott)https://www.blogger.com/profile/02916037185235335846noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33110302.post-49039305485079835182009-12-07T12:29:54.765-05:002009-12-07T12:29:54.765-05:00I haven't had any problems ordering anything f...I haven't had any problems ordering anything from Amazon or B&N. My wife, though, ordered a piece of furniture from Target online; the next morning she found virtually the same item in another store for several hundred dollars less. When I called to cancel the online order, it was less than 12 hours after the order was placed; I was told that, although Target was not scheduled to ship the item for over a week, it could not be cancelled because the paperwork had started. Frustrating.<br /><br />My own major issues have been with magazine subscriptions. I would get only about half of the issues of my subscriptions to EQMM, AHMM, Asimov's and Analog. When I called customer service I was told they no longer had replacement copies in stock. Mystery Scene and Lovecraft's cashed the checks but never sent a copy. Other subscriptions were erratic. I don't do magazine subscriptions anymore.Jerry Housenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33110302.post-30486867786891323632009-12-07T11:40:16.155-05:002009-12-07T11:40:16.155-05:00As you know, I use DAEDALUS BOOKS a lot. I had on...As you know, I use DAEDALUS BOOKS a lot. I had one problem over five years: a bent cover on a Sherlock Holmes collection. They replaced it quickly and cheerfully. AMAZON becomes the default online retailer because they offer almost everything at low prices. I've never had any delivery problems with AMAZON and I order from them weekly.Georgehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04546161337366365635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33110302.post-18273812751690755072009-12-07T11:36:39.751-05:002009-12-07T11:36:39.751-05:00I don't order much online other than books but...I don't order much online other than books but I've had pretty good luck. Barnes & Noble and Abe publishers have both delivered material to me with no errors.Charles Gramlichhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02052592247572253641noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33110302.post-83411185978773810862009-12-07T11:32:04.512-05:002009-12-07T11:32:04.512-05:00Actually, Borders was expanding too fast for its o...Actually, Borders was expanding too fast for its own good, locked into the stupid competition with B&N (if one opened, the other did down the street) before the K-Mart purchase...but after K-Mart spun Borders/Waldenbooks off, they did manage to put the most inadept sorts in charge of the new B Inc. <br /><br />I was in no less than two B&Ns and a Borders yesterday...buying my magazines in B&N, and picking up a coupon-driven video purchase at Borders.Todd Masonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01815516018079824802noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33110302.post-89000920060124142342009-12-07T11:07:26.763-05:002009-12-07T11:07:26.763-05:00Is there anyone in stores anymore?Is there anyone in stores anymore?pattinase (abbott)https://www.blogger.com/profile/02916037185235335846noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33110302.post-83112781744725455422009-12-07T11:02:04.821-05:002009-12-07T11:02:04.821-05:00I've not had a lot of problems with Amazon. A ...I've not had a lot of problems with Amazon. A couple of things arrived damaged and were swiftly replaced(or refunded in one case).<br />I've shipped to other addresses without problems.<br />I have ordered from other companies and had no problems either. Let me knock on wood also.Randy Johnsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04738462837640721126noreply@blogger.com